[Abcde-users] Mailing list visibility

[Diederik de Haas]

Hi Steve!

On Sunday, 22 May 2022 01:31:45 CEST Steve McIntyre wrote:
> On Sat, May 07, 2022 at 05:25:53PM +0200, Diederik de Haas wrote:
> >So there is a mailing list ...
> >Through the git repo, I found it was abcde-users at lists.einval.com so I
> >wanted to subscribe and went to https://lists.einval.com/ to do so ... and
> >saw: "There currently are no publicly-advertised Mailman mailing lists on
> >lists.einval.com."
> >
> >I'm subscribed to several (mostly Debian) MLs, so I figured why not append
> >'abcde-users' to https://lists.einval.com/mailman/listinfo/ and there I saw
> >the familiar page to subscribe and see the archives ... which apparently
> >has existed for quite some time.
> 
> We host quite a few lists on lists.einval.com. I've tended to
> historically *not* list them all publically on the listinfo page, as
> that just invites more spam attempts. 

That's an excellent reason not to list them.

> But OK, I've just enabled that setting for the abcde-users list now.

Luckily, "There are more roads to lead to Rome" (translated Dutch saying).

(The 0.INTRODUCTION section could be renamed to GENERAL)
Then add a 'contact' question/category which lists the
https://lists.einval.com/mailman/listinfo/ address to view the ML archive and 
(un)subscribe.
Main point is that people less familiar with (Debian) MLs may not have enough 
info to find the ML based on only the abcde-users at lists.einval.com address.

Possibly also info of where to send patches? ;-)
On salsa I could've made a MR, but I (and 'therefor' others?) now don't know 
how to do that. I'm also fine with sending patches through git-send-email.
But knowing if and where, would be a useful addition.

> >Is it an idea to also have it directly visible on the tracker.d.o page?
> 
> I'll be honest, I'm not even sure if/how to do that

Several (often team maintained?) packages have ML address as the maintainer, 
so f.e. wrt the Debian Kernel, there is direct visibility of their ML archive 
from which it's easy to figure out how to send an email to the list.
That may be overkill for abcde, but it is what I had in mind.

Cheers,
  Diederik

PS: There is no List-Id header for this ML? (I use that in my Sieve scripts)
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