<div dir="auto"><div>I know nothing about aiff but if there's a command line program to display aiff tags perhaps the OP can post the output from that program run on a file that isn't sorted properly. That might help us discover what is not working. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But I agree that this almost certainly a problem with the OP's system setup or abdce vonfig. </div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Jason Bodnar<br><a href="mailto:jason@shakabuku.org" target="_blank">jason@shakabuku.org</a><br><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 21, 2025, 2:45 AM Gabriel Rosenkoetter <<a href="mailto:gr@eclipsed.net">gr@eclipsed.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 2025-04-20 23:16, Dry Martini Holding Company 😎 wrote:<br>
> Mr. Rosen letter,<br>
<br>
No need to Mister me. ;^><br>
<br>
> Greetings and thank you for your reply. Yes, I am running the rune audio server on a raspberry pi 3.<br>
<br>
I think that part of the problem here may be that you are asking the <br>
wrong set of people the wrong question, although I don't think either of <br>
those "wrong" things are your fault.<br>
<br>
I think that the question that you actually want to be asking is how <br>
RuneAudio needs audio files presented so that it can index them properly.<br>
<br>
I don't know the answer to that question, so I don't know how to suggest <br>
changes to the way that you're running abcde in order to produce files <br>
that Rune will index properly.<br>
<br>
(I did read through <a href="https://www.runeaudio.com/documentation/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.runeaudio.com/documentation/</a> and I <br>
didn't find anything resembling the detail I'd need to answer your <br>
questions. When looking for source code, I got as far as <br>
<a href="https://www.runeaudio.com/forum/help-the-project-f24.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.runeaudio.com/forum/help-the-project-f24.html</a> and… kinda <br>
gave up for the night. It doesn't seem like they've chosen to make it <br>
easy for people outside their in-set to understand how their software <br>
works.)<br>
<br>
For what it's worth, I routinely run abcde on macOS (of various <br>
versions), play the files in various ways (including Apple's Music.app, <br>
and synchronized to both a modern iPhone and a somewhat-dated iPod), and <br>
I don't have any problems indexing files by artist, album, genre, so forth.<br>
<br>
I think that the problem you're having is that the way that you are <br>
running abcde is not populating the metadata on the files at all. That <br>
is something that is normally controlled either by command-line flags or <br>
by configuration file.<br>
<br>
That's why both josh and I have asked that you tell us how you're <br>
running abcde, so that we can help you run it in a way that populates <br>
those fields that Rune is (we presume) looking for.<br>
<br>
I'm also not simply sending you a file that you can save as <br>
~/.abcde.conf because I would have to do a lot of work to generalize the <br>
file that I have there so that it doesn't try to access directories that <br>
don't exist on your system and run programs that you keep in different <br>
locations.<br>
<br>
It's possible that <br>
<a href="https://askubuntu.com/questions/1179179/abcde-what-is-an-abcde-conf-file-to-rip-to-multiple-formats" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://askubuntu.com/questions/1179179/abcde-what-is-an-abcde-conf-file-to-rip-to-multiple-formats</a> <br>
may be closer to a turn-key answer for you, but I have not used the <br>
config file presented there personally, so I can't vouch for it.<br>
<br>
> As for utf-8, that is what is required by the rune software, per the developers. As a contrast, I have in the past, used XLD for Mac to encode my music to aiff format, and when transferred to the Pi server, the music files are cataloged and displayed as they should be.<br>
<br>
That is a helpful piece of information, but I don't think that the <br>
problem you're having is related to UTF-8 encoding of track metadata.<br>
<br>
I'm also unfamiliar with XLD (I do see <br>
<a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/xld/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sourceforge.net/projects/xld/</a>). I have no idea what it's doing <br>
differently with its output files than the way that you have executed <br>
abcde, and I also don't know how you have executed abcde.<br>
<br>
> When they are encoded with Abcde and transferred to the server, the files are only displayed in alpha order. However, they are not cataloged under “album view”, or or album list view. I can access them as is, but this is a bit cumbersome as is.<br>
<br>
It would help a lot if you could show us what command you used to run abcde.<br>
<br>
> I really like Linux and I like the Abcde script for its capabilities, and want to solve this problem. The fact that XLD produces aiff encoded music that displays properly, tells me that the problem is with some particular setup of the Abcde script.<br>
<br>
I understand how you got to that conclusion, but I think that your logic <br>
is missing several steps, because I don't think that you fully <br>
understand how the metadata about a given track is attached to the <br>
actual "music" content.<br>
<br>
I also don't think that you should have to understand that in order to <br>
transfer music from CDs that you own to online digital storage that you <br>
own. Unfortunately, I don't think that one can perform that operation <br>
using abcde without understanding more than "should" be necessary about <br>
that.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Gabriel Rosenkoetter (he/him)<br>
<a href="mailto:gr@eclipsed.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gr@eclipsed.net</a><br>
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