[Expo-tech] to-do list for troggle work

[Philip Sargent (Gmail)]

Ah yes.

GitHub Issues can be archived (in place) and backed-up outside GitHub

https://help.github.com/en/github/creating-cloning-and-archiving-repositories/backing-up-a-repository

 

From: Mark Shinwell [mailto:mshinwell at gmail.com] 
Sent: 26 March 2020 21:18
To: Philip Sargent (Gmail)
Cc: Expo Nerding
Subject: Re: [Expo-tech] to-do list for troggle work

 

Phil, I don't see why it needs to be hosted on the Expo server, nor "controlled" by us.  This is really a fallacy and a trap that I think is easy to fall into, especially given our nerd backgrounds.

 

What I would have thought we _do_ need is:

 

- Ease of use, especially for non-nerds, with documentation / help pages

- Reliability

- Security

- Low management overhead

 

To a lesser extent, being able to archive what's there, although (whilst I am fully in favour of having good archives) that seems less important here than for some other items of data.

 

I don't see how we can get the above without using something that is professionally hosted.  From what I've seen at work, Github is probably the best at present.  With regard to Github specifically, there is a full API, and there is also a basic service for sending emails upon every piece of text being added to an issue.  I would be very surprised if those didn't suffice for archiving purposes; it might just take a bit of code if you want something flashy.  I may be able to dig up some code for dealing with issues actually -- the OCaml project I work on did a major transition from Mantis to Github recently and we brought all of the issues over automatically.

 

Mark

 

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On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 at 21:06, Philip Sargent (Gmail) <philip.sargent at gmail.com> wrote:

TL;DR - see http://expo.survex.com/handbook/computing/x-todo.html  

Now that I am up to 3 pages of to-do list items for surveyscans and troggle,
plus sundry Post-Its, I really need to get them typed up somehow.

The last time we discussed this everyone agreed that the GitHub Issues
system had everything we needed *except* that we did not control it and
could not archive it. 


Ideally we would like something as pretty and easy to use as 
https://github.com/CaveSurveying/CUCCexposurveyissues/issues
but hosted on the expo server. But *without* the maintenance headache of
actually installing yet another bit of software
(e.g. trac https://trac.edgewall.org/report/2  or MantisBT
https://mantisbt.org/bugs/my_view_page.php )

But really we only need something much, much simpler:
https://www.cssscript.com/demo/simple-todo-list-web-app-with-javscript-and-l <https://www.cssscript.com/demo/simple-todo-list-web-app-with-javscript-and-localstorge/> 
ocalstorge/
or
https://codepen.io/heydon/pen/VpVNKW/ 

A single-page to-do list animated by Javascript would be fine. But shared
online storage is the issue. 
We don't want to leverage off GDrive, Dropbox of whatever (though those
would allow us to archive everything ourselves) and we don't want to run
another process on the expo server (though a very simple one might be OK)

So the example I am trying out uses the "Edit this page" capability built
into troggle, leveraging the tinyMCE HTML editor we already have.

This not-quite-yet proof of concept uses a rather fragile load of CSS to do
the show/hide stuff.

I note that the _edit page providing the tinyMCE HTML editor always has the
same authentication string in it 
<form action="" method="post"><input type='hidden'
name='csrfmiddlewaretoken' value='VmwOJjTjLNI0WFy3CbKPkrihwJ2O5puA' />
which is presumably a bug or misconfiguration of troggle, but would make
building  this really much easier if the bug is not fixed.

Currently it looks as if it is a useable system but it is not: 
* editing <ul> and <li> is too fiddly and time-consuming  to get right, and
if it is not right the show/hide CSS fails. 
* the show/hide is not local to each section.

Maybe the CSS could be made more robust but I think just writing some
Javascript would be easier to do and to maintain.

Philip



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