[Expo-tech] Keeping the dataset private

[Wookey]

On 2020-04-19 13:48 +0100, Mark Shinwell wrote:
> Do we know if the loser dataset has to remain private these days?  Many years
> ago I remember the reason for us having to keep it private was in part because
> there was concern that people might try to develop Eishöhle as a show cave,
> which would be disastrous.  However I'm a bit uncertain that remains a
> reasonable reason -- surely anyone interested in such a development would be
> able to find the necessary information by some means these days, perhaps even
> by visiting the cave?  With the level of environmental protection on the area
> it also seems rather unlikely to say the last.

Right. I don't think it's a significant issue any more, and we've not
been keeping any of the dataset or the website caves private for some
time.

> Maybe there is a concern about random visitors to Eishöhle.  However I'm unsure
> having the coordinates is really that helpful -- you really need to know where
> the path is.  That detail isn't in the dataset.

The info is fairly easy to find out without using our info so that
particular cat is already out of the
bag. https://mapcarta.com/17555548 (although there is less detail
online than I expected. We are still the most detailed info
available...)

We can check with Robert (and the Austrians are keeping their data
much more secret still - only showcaves are on the publicly accessible
site) but SFAIK they are basically OK with what we are doing. I did
chat about this with him a few years ago asking whether we should
worry about the private stuff still, and he said there was no real
need anymore. But maybe they are more nervous now they've had at least
one numpty-rescue from eishoehle.

We did have a quite old public loser dataset which was quite old and
eishoehle was missing, but I'm pretty sure you can get all the current
info off the website now.

Wookey
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