[Abcde-users] FW: Abcde and aiff

Tue Apr 22 01:52:58 BST 2025

Rats. Meant to send this just to the list, rather than just to qrp@ (etc).

Sorry!

("Dry Martini Holding Company" — which "real name", btw, I love: if you 
reply directly to me, please let me know if you would prefer that I 
didn't then simply reply to the mailing list, but my gut instinct is 
that both of us would prefer that others in the future can also benefit 
from figuring this out.)

-------- Forwarded Message --------
From: Gabriel Rosenkoetter <gr at eclipsed.net>
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2025 at 8:50 PM EDT
To: Dry Martini Holding Company <qrp at kg4kgl.net>
Subject: RE: [Abcde-users] Abcde and aiff

At a glance, you are including the tag step in your ACTIONS setting, 
which rules out, "You're just not telling abcde to tag the track", so 
that's good!

These next questions may just demonstrate my ignorance of encoding as AIFF:

What are you using for AIFF encoding?

Does that embed the tagging step in encoding?

If not, what are you using for tagging AIFF files?

(Unless I'm missing them, I don't see those specified in your config file.)

I understand that it may not be the file format you'd like to store 
music in, but have you tried running abcde with MP3 encoding (I believe 
that's the most common use case, probably followed by FLAC)?

I use lame for mp3 encoding:

MP3ENCODERSYNTAX=lame
LAME=lame
LAMEOPTS='-V 2'
OUTPUTTYPE="mp3"

and eyeD3 for tagging mp3s:

EYED3=eyeD3-3.9
#EYED3OPTS=-Q

It might be worth your time to try that on one track to see whether Rune 
on your Raspberry Pi picks up those tags.

I've been busy today, and I'm not sure I'll have time tonight or 
tomorrow morning to do so, but I'll try producing AIFF files on my end 
so that I can give you more specific answers.

If your goal with AIFF is just "lossless", and Rune is capable of 
playing FLAC files, you may also want to try encoding to FLAC to see 
whether Rune handles those usefully. It's entirely possible that abcde 
is silently failing to add metadata to AIFF files, and, if so, that is a 
bug that we should, as a community, fix, but you'll be in community with 
a larger number of people if you use FLAC instead, so you'll be less 
likely to get bit by similar AIFF-specific bugs in the future.

On 2025-04-21 12:58, Dry Martini Holding Company wrote:
My apologies. I knew there was something that I was forgetting. Here is
my config file:

export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
MAXPROCS=4                              # Run a few encoders simultaneously
PADTRACKS=y                             # Makes tracks 01 02 not 1 2
EXTRAVERBOSE=2                          # Useful for debugging
EJECTCD=y                               # Please eject cd when finished :-)
DIFFOPTS=-y
PAGEROPTS="-fM"
ALBUMARTFILE='cover.jpg'
ALBUMARTDIR="${HOME}/Music"
OVERRIDEALBUMARTDOWNLOAD=y
ANYASCIIBIN="$HOME/bin/anyascii"
LOWDISK=n
CDDBMETHOD=musicbrainz,cddb,cdtext
CDDBCOPYLOCAL="y"
CDDBLOCALDIR="$HOME/.cddb"
CDDBLOCALRECURSIVE="y"
CDDBUSELOCAL="y"
CDDBURL="http://gnudb.gnudb.org/~cddb/cddb.cgi"
CDDBSUBMIT=freedb-submit at freedb.org
NOSUBMIT=n
HELLOINFO="music at hostname"
#FLACENCODERSYNTAX=flac
#FLAC=flac
#FLACOPTS='-s -8pV -j3'
#FLACTAGSTARTCASE=y
#FLACTAGALBUMARTISTTAGNAME="ALBUMARTIST"
#FLACTAGALBUMARTISTVALUE="Various Artists"
#AACENCODERSYNTAX=ffmpeg
#FFMPEGENCOPTS="-c:a aac -b:a 192k"
AIFFENCODERSYNTAX=default
FFMPEG=ffmpeg
OUTPUTTYPE="aiff"
CDROMREADERSYNTAX=cdparanoia
CDPARANOIA=cdparanoia
CDPARANOIAOPTS="-L --never-skip=2"
CDDISCID=cd-discid
OUTPUTDIR="$HOME/Music"
ACTIONS=cddb,playlist,cue,read,encode,tag,move,clean
OUTPUTFORMAT='${ARTISTFILE}/${ALBUMFILE}/${TRACKNUM}.${TRACKFILE}'
VAOUTPUTFORMAT='Various-${ALBUMFILE}/${TRACKNUM}.${ARTISTFILE}-
${TRACKFILE}'
ONETRACKOUTPUTFORMAT='${OUTPUT}/${ARTISTFILE}/${ARTISTFILE}-${ALBUMFILE}'
VAONETRACKOUTPUTFORMAT='${OUTPUT}/Various-${ALBUMFILE}/${ALBUMFILE}'
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On 4/21/25 12:51, Gabriel Rosenkoetter wrote:
>> Could you please show us the contents of your abcde.conf file and show 
>> us the command line that you are using?
>>
>> I don't think that any of us can help you further without knowing how 
>> you're running abcde.
>>
>> On 2025-04-21 12:08, Dry Martini Holding Company wrote:
>>> Thank you for your reply. Here is the output of the LOCALE command:
>>>
>>> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
>>> LANGUAGE=
>>> LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_ALL=
>>>
>>> I have added export LC_ALL=en_AU.UTF-8 to the Abcde.conf file as Josh 
>>> suggested, and still no improvement.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> On 4/19/25 22:47, Dry Martini Holding Company 😎 wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I have been using this great script for a while now, and encoding 
>>>> all of my music to aiff format.
>>>>
>>>> I listen to the files using a RPi running rune audio music server 
>>>> software. However, the encoding (or lack thereof) causes problems 
>>>> for the server software, which requires UTF-8.
>>>>
>>>> I just discovered abcde 2.11.0, and I am still encountering this 
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> I have followed all the fixes for this problem. Is there anything 
>>>> else I need to do for this to work properly for aiff encoded files?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
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-- 
Gabriel Rosenkoetter (he/him)
gr at eclipsed.net

-- 
Gabriel Rosenkoetter (he/him)
gr at eclipsed.net
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