[Abcde-users] FW: Abcde and aiff

Tue Apr 22 04:40:50 BST 2025

On 22/4/25 10:52, Gabriel Rosenkoetter wrote:
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: Gabriel Rosenkoetter <gr at eclipsed.net>
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2025 at 8:50 PM EDT
> To: Dry Martini Holding Company <qrp at kg4kgl.net>
> Subject: RE: [Abcde-users] Abcde and aiff
>
> At a glance, you are including the tag step in your ACTIONS setting, 
> which rules out, "You're just not telling abcde to tag the track", so 
> that's good!
>
> These next questions may just demonstrate my ignorance of encoding as 
> AIFF:
>
> What are you using for AIFF encoding?
>
> Does that embed the tagging step in encoding?
>
> If not, what are you using for tagging AIFF files?
>

Over the last couple of days I've been doing some more work on abcde, 
adding the ability to detect and rip hidden track one audio [1]. I just 
noticed in the tagging function that AIFF format files are not tagged. 
See the code at this line is essentially a no-op:

https://github.com/poddmo/abcde/blob/6e7795eb5fe951e9a6b2c32083cecb0c82e423c2/abcde#L1075

You will be able to confirm the state of your aiff files with ffmpeg... 
please post the output of

ffmpeg -i 01.trackname.aiff

where 01.trackname.aiff is the abcde generated filename from a ripped CD

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_track

> (Unless I'm missing them, I don't see those specified in your config 
> file.)
>
> I understand that it may not be the file format you'd like to store 
> music in, but have you tried running abcde with MP3 encoding (I 
> believe that's the most common use case, probably followed by FLAC)?
>
> I use lame for mp3 encoding:
>
> MP3ENCODERSYNTAX=lame
> LAME=lame
> LAMEOPTS='-V 2'
> OUTPUTTYPE="mp3"
>
> and eyeD3 for tagging mp3s:
>
> EYED3=eyeD3-3.9
> #EYED3OPTS=-Q
>
> It might be worth your time to try that on one track to see whether 
> Rune on your Raspberry Pi picks up those tags.
>
> I've been busy today, and I'm not sure I'll have time tonight or 
> tomorrow morning to do so, but I'll try producing AIFF files on my end 
> so that I can give you more specific answers.
>
> If your goal with AIFF is just "lossless", and Rune is capable of 
> playing FLAC files, you may also want to try encoding to FLAC to see 
> whether Rune handles those usefully. It's entirely possible that abcde 
> is silently failing to add metadata to AIFF files, and, if so, that is 
> a bug that we should, as a community, fix, but you'll be in community 
> with a larger number of people if you use FLAC instead, so you'll be 
> less likely to get bit by similar AIFF-specific bugs in the future.
>
> On 2025-04-21 12:58, Dry Martini Holding Company wrote:
> My apologies. I knew there was something that I was forgetting. Here is
> my config file:
>
>
> export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
> MAXPROCS=4                              # Run a few encoders 
> simultaneously
> PADTRACKS=y                             # Makes tracks 01 02 not 1 2
> EXTRAVERBOSE=2                          # Useful for debugging
> EJECTCD=y                               # Please eject cd when 
> finished :-)
> DIFFOPTS=-y
> PAGEROPTS="-fM"
> ALBUMARTFILE='cover.jpg'
> ALBUMARTDIR="${HOME}/Music"
> OVERRIDEALBUMARTDOWNLOAD=y
> ANYASCIIBIN="$HOME/bin/anyascii"
> LOWDISK=n
> CDDBMETHOD=musicbrainz,cddb,cdtext
> CDDBCOPYLOCAL="y"
> CDDBLOCALDIR="$HOME/.cddb"
> CDDBLOCALRECURSIVE="y"
> CDDBUSELOCAL="y"
> CDDBURL="http://gnudb.gnudb.org/~cddb/cddb.cgi"
> CDDBSUBMIT=freedb-submit at freedb.org
> NOSUBMIT=n
> HELLOINFO="music at hostname"
> #FLACENCODERSYNTAX=flac
> #FLAC=flac
> #FLACOPTS='-s -8pV -j3'
> #FLACTAGSTARTCASE=y
> #FLACTAGALBUMARTISTTAGNAME="ALBUMARTIST"
> #FLACTAGALBUMARTISTVALUE="Various Artists"
> #AACENCODERSYNTAX=ffmpeg
> #FFMPEGENCOPTS="-c:a aac -b:a 192k"
> AIFFENCODERSYNTAX=default
> FFMPEG=ffmpeg
> OUTPUTTYPE="aiff"
> CDROMREADERSYNTAX=cdparanoia
> CDPARANOIA=cdparanoia
> CDPARANOIAOPTS="-L --never-skip=2"
> CDDISCID=cd-discid
> OUTPUTDIR="$HOME/Music"
> ACTIONS=cddb,playlist,cue,read,encode,tag,move,clean
> OUTPUTFORMAT='${ARTISTFILE}/${ALBUMFILE}/${TRACKNUM}.${TRACKFILE}'
> VAOUTPUTFORMAT='Various-${ALBUMFILE}/${TRACKNUM}.${ARTISTFILE}-
> ${TRACKFILE}'
> ONETRACKOUTPUTFORMAT='${OUTPUT}/${ARTISTFILE}/${ARTISTFILE}-${ALBUMFILE}'
> VAONETRACKOUTPUTFORMAT='${OUTPUT}/Various-${ALBUMFILE}/${ALBUMFILE}'
> 1,0-1         Top
>
>
> On 4/21/25 12:51, Gabriel Rosenkoetter wrote:
>>> Could you please show us the contents of your abcde.conf file and 
>>> show us the command line that you are using?
>>>
>>> I don't think that any of us can help you further without knowing 
>>> how you're running abcde.
>>>
>>> On 2025-04-21 12:08, Dry Martini Holding Company wrote:
>>>> Thank you for your reply. Here is the output of the LOCALE command:
>>>>
>>>> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
>>>> LANGUAGE=
>>>> LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_ALL=
>>>>
>>>> I have added export LC_ALL=en_AU.UTF-8 to the Abcde.conf file as 
>>>> Josh suggested, and still no improvement.
>>>>

Your locale looks good, just be sure to use en_US.UTF-8 and not 
en_AU.UTF-8 or else your encoding will be inverted 😉️

>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>> On 4/19/25 22:47, Dry Martini Holding Company 😎 wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been using this great script for a while now, and encoding 
>>>>> all of my music to aiff format.
>>>>>
>>>>> I listen to the files using a RPi running rune audio music server 
>>>>> software. However, the encoding (or lack thereof) causes problems 
>>>>> for the server software, which requires UTF-8.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just discovered abcde 2.11.0, and I am still encountering this 
>>>>> problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have followed all the fixes for this problem. Is there anything 
>>>>> else I need to do for this to work properly for aiff encoded files?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
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